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</p></div><div class="breadcrumb-element"><a href>2026-08-04-omniroute-free-deepseek-silent-stops</a></div></nav><h1 class="article-title">2026-08-04-omniroute-free-deepseek-silent-stops</h1><p show-comma="true" class="content-meta"><time datetime="2026-08-03T19:30:20.542Z">Aug 04, 2026</time><span>2 min read</span></p></div></div><article class="popover-hint"><div class="markdown-preview-view markdown-rendered"><h1 id="2026-08-04-omniroute-free-deepseek-silent-stops-empty-after-tool">[2026-08-04] OmniRoute free-DeepSeek silent stops (empty-after-tool)<a role="anchor" aria-hidden="true" tabindex="-1" data-no-popover="true" href="#2026-08-04-omniroute-free-deepseek-silent-stops-empty-after-tool" class="internal internal-link"><svg width="18" height="18" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 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<h2 id="status">Status<a role="anchor" aria-hidden="true" tabindex="-1" data-no-popover="true" href="#status" class="internal internal-link"><svg width="18" height="18" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></a></h2>
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<p>Mitigated — combos reworked; upstream still degraded.</p>
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<h2 id="symptom">Symptom<a role="anchor" aria-hidden="true" tabindex="-1" data-no-popover="true" href="#symptom" class="internal internal-link"><svg width="18" height="18" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></a></h2>
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<p>On <strong>both</strong> Hermes instances (ops/Tusk + the other instance), turns using <code>deepseek-flash-free</code> (and <code>smart-route</code> via <code>good-free</code>) did one tool call, then went <strong>silently</strong> — no text, no error. “continue” → one more tool call → silent stop again.</p>
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<h2 id="root-cause">Root cause<a role="anchor" aria-hidden="true" tabindex="-1" data-no-popover="true" href="#root-cause" class="internal internal-link"><svg width="18" height="18" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></a></h2>
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<p>The free-DeepSeek upstreams behind the combos started returning <strong>valid-but-empty HTTP 200s right after a tool_calls turn</strong> (no content, no further tool call). Hermes can’t distinguish “empty” from “model chose to stop” → ends turn silently. Began <strong>2026-08-01 ~09:14 UTC</strong>, still active. OmniRoute log markers:</p>
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<pre><code>[STREAM] Empty assistant response after tool_calls completion (<provider>:<model>)
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[ProxyEgress] <provider>/<conn-hash> ... status=error
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<p>Per-model evidence (counts in <code>storage.sqlite</code> era log):</p>
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<ul>
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<li><code>238d5978/deepseek-v4-flash</code> — 63× empty-after-tool (conn <code>d4b9fee0</code>, 189 proxy errors)</li>
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<li><code>238d5978/deepseek-v4-flash-0731</code> — 70× empty-after-tool</li>
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<li><code>eb5af0da/deepseek-v4-flash-thinking:free</code> (conn <code>f8169018</code>) — 504 proxy errors (combo #1 slot)</li>
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<li><code>nvidia</code> deepseek + <code>opencode-zen</code> deepseek-free — noisy, errors</li>
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</ul>
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<p>Strategy trap: both combos used <code>priority</code>, which retries the <strong>same</strong> broken connection and never fails over on an empty 200.</p>
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<h2 id="change-applied-2026-08-04-0330-awst">Change applied (2026-08-04, ~03:30 AWST)<a role="anchor" aria-hidden="true" tabindex="-1" data-no-popover="true" href="#change-applied-2026-08-04-0330-awst" class="internal internal-link"><svg width="18" height="18" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></a></h2>
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<p>Edited <code>combos</code> in <code>/var/lib/omniroute/storage.sqlite</code> on CT600 (live DB, hot-reloads — no restart):</p>
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<ul>
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<li><strong><code>deepseek-flash-free</code></strong> — strategy <code>priority</code> → <code>fill-first</code>; 8 → 7 models: healthy free first (<code>mimo-v2.5-free</code>, <code>laguna-s-2.1:free</code> ×2 providers, <code>step-3.7-flash</code>, <code>glm-5.2-cheap:free</code>), one deepseek (<code>deepseek-v4-flash-thinking:free</code>) demoted to last resort.</li>
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<li><strong><code>good-free</code></strong> — strategy <code>priority</code> → <code>fill-first</code>; 15 → 12 models. <strong>Dropped</strong> the proven culprits: <code>238d5978/deepseek-v4-flash</code>, <code>nvidia/deepseek-ai/deepseek-v4-pro</code>, <code>nvidia/deepseek-ai/deepseek-v4-flash</code>. <code>opencode/deepseek-v4-flash-free</code> kept as last resort.</li>
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<p>Backup of both pre-change rows: <code>/tmp/combo_backup_20260804.json</code> on the Hermes gateway LXC.</p>
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<h2 id="verification">Verification<a role="anchor" aria-hidden="true" tabindex="-1" data-no-popover="true" href="#verification" class="internal internal-link"><svg width="18" height="18" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></a></h2>
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<li>Live API (<code>/v1/combos</code>) reflects both changes immediately (hot reload).</li>
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<li>2-step tool-call round-trip through <code>deepseek-flash-free</code> returns proper final content.</li>
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<li>Direct round-trips (stream + non-stream) through the OLD combo were also healthy — the failure needs the degraded upstream + real session, hence counts not repro.</li>
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</ul>
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<h2 id="follow-ups">Follow-ups<a role="anchor" aria-hidden="true" tabindex="-1" data-no-popover="true" href="#follow-ups" class="internal internal-link"><svg width="18" height="18" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round"><path d="M10 13a5 5 0 0 0 7.54.54l3-3a5 5 0 0 0-7.07-7.07l-1.72 1.71"></path><path d="M14 11a5 5 0 0 0-7.54-.54l-3 3a5 5 0 0 0 7.07 7.07l1.71-1.71"></path></svg></a></h2>
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<li>Upstream free-DeepSeek tier still degraded; re-check counts in a few days and restore deepseek-first ordering if it recovers.</li>
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<li>Consider <code>auto</code>+explorationRate for self-tuning if free tier stays flaky.</li>
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<li>Hermes-side: empty-post-tool turns are nudge/retry/fallback handled, but still end silently once exhausted — possible future improvement: surface “(empty after tool calls)” more visibly.</li>
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